From gabe at pwd.ca  Wed Jul 15 14:37:52 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:37:52 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Two new hotspots
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907151137l311758eft8e51f9f56c8256e0@mail.gmail.com>

Just FYI, two restaurants have joined Wireless Toronto in the past few
weeks: Grapefruit Moon on Bathurst, and East Side Mario's on Front.  Both
are listed on our hotspot map here:
http://auth.wirelesstoronto.ca/hotspots_map.php

Gabe
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From cho.hanna at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 12:49:03 2009
From: cho.hanna at gmail.com (Hanna)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:49:03 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] wirelesstoronto-discuss Digest, Vol 57,
	Issue 1
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yay!


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From michele.perras at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 11:17:59 2009
From: michele.perras at gmail.com (Michele Perras)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:17:59 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Fwd: | 07.20.09 | Google aims to help FCC
	craft national broadband plan
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2. Google aims to help FCC craft national broadband
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Google is aiming to help the Federal Communications Commission craft plans
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the economic stimulus Recovery Act package. The FCC has asked for civic
engagement in the process, and Google is answering the call.

On the company's official blog, Google said it has teamed up with the New
America Foundation to launch a Google Moderator page that allows visitors to
submit and vote on ideas they believe the commission should include in its
national broadband plan. "Two weeks from now we'll take the most popular and
most innovative ideas and submit them to the official record at the FCC on
your behalf," wrote Richard Whitt, Google's Washington Telecom and Media
Counsel. "

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improved:

   - fiber deployment to every library, school, community health care center
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   - incentives for providers to install multiple lines of fiber as new
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   - fewer usage restrictions on white space wireless spectrum

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Last year Ruckus Wireless entered the 802.11n enterprise space, this year it
is jumping into the 802.11n outdoor market with an access point that uses
802.11n and targets service providers and operators looking to offload their
3G data traffic onto an alternative network.

The company introduced the ZoneFlex 7762 access point, uses fast draft IEEE
802.11n technology, supports dynamic beam forming and can use two frequency
bands--5.8 GHz and 2.4 GHz--simultaneously, said David Callisch, vice
president of marketing with Ruckus.

The company already offers an outdoor 802.11 a/b/g AP to its customers, such
as hotels and enterprises, that want some outdoor coverage as well, but its
new offering is designed for major outdoor deployments.

"We think there is a huge opportunity in the outdoor market, and it's not
like it used to be," Callisch said. "People think of metro plays and
lighting up cities with a signal. That market is morphing into hot
zones--offering WiFi in area-specific markets where there are lots of users
such as apartment complexes, city blocks and enterprise campuses."

Ruckus said it plans to undercut rivals by offering the new 802.11n AP at
802.11g price points. It will be offering the AP for $2,000, which is half
of the price Cisco charges. The 7762 will begin shipping in August.

Ruckus is also heavily targeting the offering at host of telecom service
providers, ranging from cable providers to wireless operators. Ruckus
customers China Telecom and PCCW in Hong Kong have been bundling mobile
broadband with WiFi hotspot coverage and rolling out WiFi.

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Raytheon won a $24.4 million contract with the U.S. military to develop a
technology called MAINGATE, or Mobile Ad hoc Interperability GATEway, that
will link several tactical ground, air and satellite communications
terminals together as a key piece of a Defense Advanced Research Projects
Agency project.

The wireless IP network project has been going on within the Department of
Defense for about a decade but MAINGATE will bring in groups of radios and
integrate them onto one high latency wireless network. The aim of the
program is to enable tactical, real-time, high-quality video, data and voice
to be deployed in a networked environment to support tactical operations.



Raytheon's MAINGATE will allow legacy analog and digital systems to be
networked together. It will allow a host of users to join the network at the
same time as well as allow more than 30 different military and civil radios
to talk to each other while maintaining a high-capacity mobile network. For
instance, the network must support a minimum of 20 simultaneous 384 kbps
video streams, voice and data applications, peer-to-peer applications and
network management for aggregate per link data rates ranging from 6.5 Mbps
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The impact of netbooks and laptops on the growth of mobile data traffic has
been significant, but a new study from Coda Research Consultancy claims that
by 2017, some 418 million users worldwide will be using these devices and
generating 1.8 exabytes of traffic per month, representing
a<http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.html?rtr=on&s=69l,17vlp,8mf,hbbn,gxmy,468b,2slx>40-fold
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From jon.alexander at utoronto.ca  Mon Jul 20 14:04:24 2009
From: jon.alexander at utoronto.ca (Jon Alexander)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:04:24 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Fwd: | 07.20.09 | Google aims to help
 FCC	craft national broadband plan
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Thanks Michele -- interesting read!

Jon

Michele Perras wrote:
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Sun Jul 26 18:53:33 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:53:33 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Wireless Toronto news, summer 2009
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

It's been a while since we sent out an update on what Wireless Toronto has
been up to.  So here goes:

1) Milestones
2) New hotspots
3) BIG on Bloor
4) Open-mesh deployments
5) InSite Toronto
6) Yonge-Dundas community portal page project
7) Solar prototyping
8) In the news
9) About Wireless Toronto

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1) Milestones

This summer, Wireless Toronto hit two big milestones: our 4th anniversary,
and 20,000 users.  Here's a blog post about it:
http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2009/06/09/wireless-toronto-celebrates-4-years-of-community-wi-fi-with-20000th-user/


2) New hotspots

We've launched three new hotspots so far this summer, bringing the total up
to 36.  The new ones are Grapefruit Moon, East Side Mario's on Front St.,
and the new Fox & Fiddle on Wellesley.  A map of all our hotspots is here:
http://auth.wirelesstoronto.ca/hotspots_map.php


3) BIG on Bloor

On June 20th, Bloor Street West closed for a giant street festival, and
Wireless Toronto was there.  Despite it being a very rainy day, we sold
t-shirts and buttons, and set up a six access-point network, covering Bloor
from Ossington to Dovercourt.  Photos here:
http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2009/06/22/big-on-bloor-2009/


4) Open-mesh deployments

We've been experimenting over the past year or so with the open-mesh
networking platform (open-mesh.com).  This summer we converted to of our
hotspots to this system, to help us get better coverage.  The results so far
have been great: the network at Yonge-Dundas Square and at Dufferin Grove
Park are both now way stronger than they were with the previous system.
We're continuing to experiment with the platform -- if you're in Toronto and
working with open-mesh, or are interested in checking it out, introduce
yourself on the "discuss" list!


5) InSite Toronto

Wireless Toronto is happy to be working with the art collective Year Zero
One on a new public art project, In-Site Toronto.

In-Site Toronto will be a collection of site-specific art presented on the
portal pages of wifi hotspots in the Wireless Toronto network. Once the
project is developed, the current start page that Wireless Toronto users see
when they log in will be a platform to showcase newly-commissioned media
art. The project is supported by the Canada Council for the Arts, and will
feature work by six prominent Toronto-based artists.  Production begins this
August, and the exhibition will begin in early 2010.  The works that the
artists will develop will range from video, audio, web work, a series of
still images, interactive work, games, and more. Each project will have a
conceptual link to the hotspot that it inhabits, making the connection to
Toronto's public spaces far more than just a mere presentation platform.
In-Site Toronto is curated by Michelle Kasprzak, and was piloted in Montreal
a few years ago.

The kick-off meeting for In-Site Toronto will be held on August 28th.
Wireless Toronto volunteers are welcome to get involved!  Please email Gabe
(gabe at wirelesstoronto.ca) if you're interested.


6) Yonge-Dundas community portal page project

As part of the recent expansion of the Yonge-Dundas Square hotspot, we're
working on building a new community portal page for that hotspot.  We've
been dreaming for years about our ideal community portal page (or "location
portal"), which would feature location-based information pulled from
geo-aware APIs, along with social media features.  These days there are lots
of APIs available for making this happen, so we're going to give it another
shot this August.  If you're interested in helping out, please post in the
"discuss" list!


7) Solar prototyping

Another project we'll be working on this summer/fall is building a solar
wifi mesh node.  There are commercial ones on the market, but it'd be fun to
build our own prototype, publish the specs online, and see if we can keep it
running through the winter.  If you'd like to participate, email Gabe (
gabe at wirelesstoronto.ca).


8) In the news

There's been some buzz in the past few months about the possibility of free
wifi in Toronto public housing.  Matt Hartley wrote a good article about it
in The Globe and Mail, and interviewed Gabe from Wireless Toronto:
http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2009/06/06/globe-and-mail-free-my-wifi/


9) About Wireless Toronto

Wireless Toronto is a non-profit all-volunteer group, dedicated to the
growth of no-cost wireless Internet access in Toronto's public and publicly
accessible spaces. Wireless Toronto is equally dedicated to exploring how
technology can be used to build community in interesting and innovative
ways.  Since the group's founding in May 2005, our volunteers have set up
dozens of hotspots across the GTA. A good place to start finding out more
about Wireless Toronto is by checking the group's blog at
wirelesstoronto.ca/blog and by joining our e-mail lists:
    Wirelesstoronto-news (announcements only)
    Wirelesstoronto-discuss (discussion, normally low volume)
Subscribe at: http://wirelesstoronto.ca/wt_email_lists.php

Wireless Toronto welcomes individuals, collaborative partners and community
groups to contact us, attend one of our monthly meetings, join our
discussion list, and get involved in expanding free wireless in all of
Toronto's  neighbourhoods.

Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/wirelesstoronto
Fan us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WirelessToronto
Read our blog: http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/
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From dan at misener.org  Sun Jul 26 20:37:58 2009
From: dan at misener.org (Dan Misener)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:37:58 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] [wirelesstoronto-news] Wireless
	Toronto news, summer 2009
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4136825e0907261737w2c938vc95a6ddd3d681230@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> 4) Open-mesh deployments
>
> if you're in Toronto and working with open-mesh, or are interested in
> checking it out, introduce yourself on the "discuss" list!
>

This is great news! Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dan, and for
the past year or so, I've been running a small mesh network at the corner of
Queen and Parliament:

http://public.meraki.com/network/Corktown<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.meraki.com%2Fnetwork%2FCorktown&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdkBPKzwoniJOzL_rwc5Blx7JUVtg>

Right now it's running on Meraki hardware and software, but with their
recent pricing and business model changes, I've been very interested in the
open-mesh system as an alternative. I've read that it _used_ to be possible
to reflash Meraki hardware to the open-mesh system, but that this is no
longer the case.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience reflashing Meraki devices to
run open-mesh.

-- 
Dan Misener
dan at misener.org / +1 (416) 879-4695
http://www.danmisener.com
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From dan at misener.org  Mon Jul 27 11:48:09 2009
From: dan at misener.org (Dan Misener)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:48:09 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] [wirelesstoronto-news] Wireless
	Toronto news, summer 2009
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4136825e0907270848l57ba78e3j822fa7a393307ec9@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> 4) Open-mesh deployments
>
> We've been experimenting over the past year or so with the open-mesh
> networking platform (open-mesh.com).  This summer we converted to of our
> hotspots to this system, to help us get better coverage.  The results so far
> have been great: the network at Yonge-Dundas Square and at Dufferin Grove
> Park are both now way stronger than they were with the previous system.
> We're continuing to experiment with the platform -- if you're in Toronto and
> working with open-mesh, or are interested in checking it out, introduce
> yourself on the "discuss" list!
>

This is great news! Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dan, and for
the past year or so, I've been running a small mesh network at the corner of
Queen and Parliament:

http://public.meraki.com/network/Corktown<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.meraki.com%2Fnetwork%2FCorktown&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdkBPKzwoniJOzL_rwc5Blx7JUVtg>

Right now it's running on Meraki hardware and software, but with their
recent pricing and business model changes, I've been very interested in the
open-mesh system as an alternative. I've read that it _used_ to be possible
to reflash Meraki hardware to the open-mesh system, but that this is no
longer the case.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience reflashing Meraki devices to
run open-mesh.

-- 
Dan Misener
dan at misener.org / +1 (416) 879-4695
http://www.danmisener.com
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 13:25:56 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:25:56 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>

At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.

Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.

Gabe
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 13:28:24 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:28:24 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>

Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to do
it!

Alex


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>
> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>
> Gabe
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
www.alexdefreitas.com
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 15:38:18 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:38:18 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>

OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
muster.
The Wi-Fi is still down :-(

Here's a rundown:
>From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
network....just not surf the web.
I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
internet connection problem?

The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
connected lights would show on the modem.
When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
start glaring again.

The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router rather
than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
Would that make a difference?

I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.

Alex


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to do
> it!
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>
>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
>> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
>> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>
>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
www.alexdefreitas.com
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 15:51:02 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:51:02 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alex --
Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it won't
work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
auth server).

Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?  (Mo
has it.)

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
> muster.
> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>
> Here's a rundown:
> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
> network....just not surf the web.
> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
> internet connection problem?
>
> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
> connected lights would show on the modem.
> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
> start glaring again.
>
> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
> Would that make a difference?
>
> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to
>> do it!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
>>> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
>>> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>
>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>
>>> Gabe
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>> The University of Auckland
>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 15:58:27 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:58:27 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>

Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach coach
in there for the time being.
While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the Linksys
and see if that does anything differently.

Alex

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> Hi Alex --
> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
> auth server).
>
> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?  (Mo
> has it.)
>
> Gabe
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
>> muster.
>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>
>> Here's a rundown:
>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>> network....just not surf the web.
>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
>> internet connection problem?
>>
>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
>> start glaring again.
>>
>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>> Would that make a difference?
>>
>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to
>>> do it!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
>>>> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
>>>> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>>>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>
>>>> Gabe
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>> The University of Auckland
>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
www.alexdefreitas.com
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 16:22:17 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:22:17 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>

Woohoo!  Thanks!

Plug the NS2 into the roach coach directly, and leave the Linksys plugged
into the dsl modem.

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach
> coach in there for the time being.
> While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the
> Linksys and see if that does anything differently.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex --
>> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
>> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
>> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
>> auth server).
>>
>> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?  (Mo
>> has it.)
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
>>> muster.
>>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>>
>>> Here's a rundown:
>>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>>> network....just not surf the web.
>>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
>>> internet connection problem?
>>>
>>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
>>> start glaring again.
>>>
>>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>>> Would that make a difference?
>>>
>>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to
>>>> do it!
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.
>>>>> My hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be
>>>>> with the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>>>>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
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From dan at danmisener.com  Fri Jul 31 17:15:03 2009
From: dan at danmisener.com (Dan Misener)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:15:03 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Open-mesh on linksys routers
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5564BAEE-4F20-45EA-8537-F18A8A51410C@danmisener.com>

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but are you running open-mesh/ 
batman/robin on stock Linksys routers?

I have a couple of WRT54GLs that I'd love to reflash and use as part  
of a mesh. Didn't think it was possible. Looking at the WT site, I  
can't seem to find much about the hardware and firmware powering the  
mesh. Where's the best place to learn more?

Thanks kindly,

-dm

Sent from my telephone. Apologies for brevity, mistakes. 


From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 17:33:28 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:33:28 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Open-mesh on linksys routers
In-Reply-To: <5564BAEE-4F20-45EA-8537-F18A8A51410C@danmisener.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
	<5564BAEE-4F20-45EA-8537-F18A8A51410C@danmisener.com>
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311433p7c4706c1neabbf35004edb5f6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan --
No, open-mesh only works on Accton-chipset routers.  OpenWRT-compatible
Linksys routers use the Broadcom chipset.

That said, I think it'd be cool to write some code that would allow Linksys
routers to be managed & monitored through the open-mesh dashboard.  I
haven't put much thought into it yet, but it'd be possible, if a little
kludgy.

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Dan Misener <dan at danmisener.com> wrote:

> Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but are you running open-mesh/
> batman/robin on stock Linksys routers?
>
> I have a couple of WRT54GLs that I'd love to reflash and use as part
> of a mesh. Didn't think it was possible. Looking at the WT site, I
> can't seem to find much about the hardware and firmware powering the
> mesh. Where's the best place to learn more?
>
> Thanks kindly,
>
> -dm
>
> Sent from my telephone. Apologies for brevity, mistakes.
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 18:33:59 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:59 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311533rfcb94dawd7d0cda29daf2d64@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gabe and everyone.I think I failed to be a good geek for the second
time.
It certainly is a high intensity in the TO Tix office. The guys kept asking
me if i was done yet!

The modem at Dundas is definitely not connecting to the internet.
I tested the Rogers WiMax modem and that worked fine...so I connected that
to the existing openmesh router on the window....for some reason that didn't
work!
SO, I used the pico2 router we used at BIG on Bloor and connected that to
the WiMax modem - a completely parallel set up.
That worked but it was 6pm and they were locking up. As soon as I was out in
the square it stopped working again.

The original setup is all plugged in as normal - ie. the WirelessToronto
SSID is still being broadcast - but no internet connection.
There is also the SSID  WirelessTorontoBIG and that worked when i plugged it
in - but then stopped as soon as I was out :-(

Unfortunately I'm out of here until Tuesday, and I understand on Tues the
Roach Coach needs to go to Michele. So hopefully my cumbersome solution
works til then.

Gabe, what's the dashboard URL for the WirelessTorontoBIG network?

alex


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> Woohoo!  Thanks!
>
> Plug the NS2 into the roach coach directly, and leave the Linksys plugged
> into the dsl modem.
>
> Gabe
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach
>> coach in there for the time being.
>> While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the
>> Linksys and see if that does anything differently.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex --
>>> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
>>> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
>>> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
>>> auth server).
>>>
>>> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?
>>> (Mo has it.)
>>>
>>> Gabe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
>>>> muster.
>>>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>>>
>>>> Here's a rundown:
>>>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>>>> network....just not surf the web.
>>>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>>>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection.
>>>> So internet connection problem?
>>>>
>>>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>>>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>>>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity
>>>> lights start glaring again.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>>>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>>>> Would that make a difference?
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way
>>>>> to do it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.
>>>>>> My hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be
>>>>>> with the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to
>>>>>> restart them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>> The University of Auckland
>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 18:45:53 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:45:53 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311533rfcb94dawd7d0cda29daf2d64@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
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Good work, Alex.  <smile>  It sounds like you did all the right things.  It
looks like the pico2 is up now:
http://www.open-mesh.com/nodes_attnt.php?id=wirelesstoronto&showall=1&details=1

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:33 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Gabe and everyone.I think I failed to be a good geek for the second
> time.
> It certainly is a high intensity in the TO Tix office. The guys kept asking
> me if i was done yet!
>
> The modem at Dundas is definitely not connecting to the internet.
> I tested the Rogers WiMax modem and that worked fine...so I connected that
> to the existing openmesh router on the window....for some reason that didn't
> work!
> SO, I used the pico2 router we used at BIG on Bloor and connected that to
> the WiMax modem - a completely parallel set up.
> That worked but it was 6pm and they were locking up. As soon as I was out
> in the square it stopped working again.
>
> The original setup is all plugged in as normal - ie. the WirelessToronto
> SSID is still being broadcast - but no internet connection.
> There is also the SSID  WirelessTorontoBIG and that worked when i plugged
> it in - but then stopped as soon as I was out :-(
>
> Unfortunately I'm out of here until Tuesday, and I understand on Tues the
> Roach Coach needs to go to Michele. So hopefully my cumbersome solution
> works til then.
>
> Gabe, what's the dashboard URL for the WirelessTorontoBIG network?
>
> alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>
>> Woohoo!  Thanks!
>>
>> Plug the NS2 into the roach coach directly, and leave the Linksys plugged
>> into the dsl modem.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach
>>> coach in there for the time being.
>>> While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the
>>> Linksys and see if that does anything differently.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alex --
>>>> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
>>>> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
>>>> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
>>>> auth server).
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?
>>>> (Mo has it.)
>>>>
>>>> Gabe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I
>>>>> could muster.
>>>>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a rundown:
>>>>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>>>>> network....just not surf the web.
>>>>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>>>>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection.
>>>>> So internet connection problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>>>>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>>>>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity
>>>>> lights start glaring again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>>>>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>>>>> Would that make a difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way
>>>>>> to do it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.
>>>>>>> My hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be
>>>>>>> with the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to
>>>>>>> restart them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Wed Jul 15 14:37:52 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:37:52 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Two new hotspots
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907151137l311758eft8e51f9f56c8256e0@mail.gmail.com>

Just FYI, two restaurants have joined Wireless Toronto in the past few
weeks: Grapefruit Moon on Bathurst, and East Side Mario's on Front.  Both
are listed on our hotspot map here:
http://auth.wirelesstoronto.ca/hotspots_map.php

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From cho.hanna at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 12:49:03 2009
From: cho.hanna at gmail.com (Hanna)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:49:03 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] wirelesstoronto-discuss Digest, Vol 57,
	Issue 1
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Message-ID: <eab19db50907160949o6c107869ra3bd311934d6fece@mail.gmail.com>

yay!


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> Just FYI, two restaurants have joined Wireless Toronto in the past few
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From michele.perras at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 11:17:59 2009
From: michele.perras at gmail.com (Michele Perras)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:17:59 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Fwd: | 07.20.09 | Google aims to help FCC
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Some of the below items might be of interest (ie #3).Cheers,
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*Unstrung* reports that some U.S. operators have yet to decide whether they
will apply for broadband stimulus grants and loans made available for
unserved and underserved areas.

While wireless ISPs such as Towerstream and ERF Wireless are eager to apply
for funds, other operators such as CenturyTel, which plans to roll out Long
Term Evolution (LTE) technology to its rural customers using the 700 MHz
band, have not decided. The deadline to apply for the first round of
funds--$4 billion worth--is Aug. 15.

Open Range Communications, which recently scored a loan from the Department
of Agriculture's Rural Development Utilities Program and another $100
million in private equity funds, is also unsure whether it will tap the
funds for more money. Open Range is deploying WiMAX in rural areas.

It's widely believed that major operators may not bother applying for funds
because of the open access requirements attached to the money. For smaller
operators, they need to find matching funds of at least 20 percent toward
the total project cost.

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2. Google aims to help FCC craft national broadband
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  By Lynnette Luna
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Google is aiming to help the Federal Communications Commission craft plans
for a national broadband network by the February 2010 deadline called for in
the economic stimulus Recovery Act package. The FCC has asked for civic
engagement in the process, and Google is answering the call.

On the company's official blog, Google said it has teamed up with the New
America Foundation to launch a Google Moderator page that allows visitors to
submit and vote on ideas they believe the commission should include in its
national broadband plan. "Two weeks from now we'll take the most popular and
most innovative ideas and submit them to the official record at the FCC on
your behalf," wrote Richard Whitt, Google's Washington Telecom and Media
Counsel. "

The search giant is already advocating its own view of how broadband can be
improved:

   - fiber deployment to every library, school, community health care center
   and public housing facility in the US;
   - incentives for providers to install multiple lines of fiber as new
   networks are rolled out
   - fewer usage restrictions on white space wireless spectrum

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3. Ruckus Wireless introduces 802.11n access point for outdoor
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Last year Ruckus Wireless entered the 802.11n enterprise space, this year it
is jumping into the 802.11n outdoor market with an access point that uses
802.11n and targets service providers and operators looking to offload their
3G data traffic onto an alternative network.

The company introduced the ZoneFlex 7762 access point, uses fast draft IEEE
802.11n technology, supports dynamic beam forming and can use two frequency
bands--5.8 GHz and 2.4 GHz--simultaneously, said David Callisch, vice
president of marketing with Ruckus.

The company already offers an outdoor 802.11 a/b/g AP to its customers, such
as hotels and enterprises, that want some outdoor coverage as well, but its
new offering is designed for major outdoor deployments.

"We think there is a huge opportunity in the outdoor market, and it's not
like it used to be," Callisch said. "People think of metro plays and
lighting up cities with a signal. That market is morphing into hot
zones--offering WiFi in area-specific markets where there are lots of users
such as apartment complexes, city blocks and enterprise campuses."

Ruckus said it plans to undercut rivals by offering the new 802.11n AP at
802.11g price points. It will be offering the AP for $2,000, which is half
of the price Cisco charges. The 7762 will begin shipping in August.

Ruckus is also heavily targeting the offering at host of telecom service
providers, ranging from cable providers to wireless operators. Ruckus
customers China Telecom and PCCW in Hong Kong have been bundling mobile
broadband with WiFi hotspot coverage and rolling out WiFi.

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Raytheon won a $24.4 million contract with the U.S. military to develop a
technology called MAINGATE, or Mobile Ad hoc Interperability GATEway, that
will link several tactical ground, air and satellite communications
terminals together as a key piece of a Defense Advanced Research Projects
Agency project.

The wireless IP network project has been going on within the Department of
Defense for about a decade but MAINGATE will bring in groups of radios and
integrate them onto one high latency wireless network. The aim of the
program is to enable tactical, real-time, high-quality video, data and voice
to be deployed in a networked environment to support tactical operations.



Raytheon's MAINGATE will allow legacy analog and digital systems to be
networked together. It will allow a host of users to join the network at the
same time as well as allow more than 30 different military and civil radios
to talk to each other while maintaining a high-capacity mobile network. For
instance, the network must support a minimum of 20 simultaneous 384 kbps
video streams, voice and data applications, peer-to-peer applications and
network management for aggregate per link data rates ranging from 6.5 Mbps
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The impact of netbooks and laptops on the growth of mobile data traffic has
been significant, but a new study from Coda Research Consultancy claims that
by 2017, some 418 million users worldwide will be using these devices and
generating 1.8 exabytes of traffic per month, representing
a<http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.html?rtr=on&s=69l,17vlp,8mf,hbbn,gxmy,468b,2slx>40-fold
increase over 2009.

The consultancy forecasts that mobile broadband revenues of more than $50
billion will come from netbook/laptop users by 2017, with the Asia-Pacific
region leading with 162 million users. Europe will see 94 million users
while North America is expected to reach 58 million.

Coda Research said half of all mobile broadband users via laptops and
netbooks worldwide will be using LTE connections. LTE users will hit 38
million in 2013 after a ramp up in LTE production in 2012, and will rise to
209 million by 2017, a 1,100 percent increase over 2012, the firm further
forecasts.

"LTE take up will be greatly skewed toward European and North American
markets in the short to medium term, where ARPU will be highest. However, we
will also see significant take up in China, and we may also see countries
like India bypass 3G altogether, and move straight to LTE," said Steve
Smith, consultant with Coda Research.

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Research from TeleGeography indicates the addressable global market for
3G/4G services will grow to more than 4.5 billion potential subscribers by
the end of 2013. The figure will represent 71 percent of all wireless
subscribers. The firm said nearly all wireless subscribers in Europe will
have the potential to access mobile broadband services, while the
addressable market in the Asia-Pacific region is less, about 60 percent,
because of the cost and difficult involved in extending coverage to rural
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> FON, the Spanish company that has been creating a global network of shared
WiFi hotspots, has introduced an advanced WiFi router for the U.S market
that is based on the 802.11n standard.
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> ?ZTE is reported to have picked up just over a third of the latest
TD-SCDMA tender from China Mobile, reports the *Interfax* news agency.
Huawei won 22 percent of the contract, while Datang Telecom was awarded 16
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From jon.alexander at utoronto.ca  Mon Jul 20 14:04:24 2009
From: jon.alexander at utoronto.ca (Jon Alexander)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:04:24 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Fwd: | 07.20.09 | Google aims to help
 FCC	craft national broadband plan
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Thanks Michele -- interesting read!

Jon

Michele Perras wrote:
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Sun Jul 26 18:53:33 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:53:33 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Wireless Toronto news, summer 2009
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

It's been a while since we sent out an update on what Wireless Toronto has
been up to.  So here goes:

1) Milestones
2) New hotspots
3) BIG on Bloor
4) Open-mesh deployments
5) InSite Toronto
6) Yonge-Dundas community portal page project
7) Solar prototyping
8) In the news
9) About Wireless Toronto

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1) Milestones

This summer, Wireless Toronto hit two big milestones: our 4th anniversary,
and 20,000 users.  Here's a blog post about it:
http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2009/06/09/wireless-toronto-celebrates-4-years-of-community-wi-fi-with-20000th-user/


2) New hotspots

We've launched three new hotspots so far this summer, bringing the total up
to 36.  The new ones are Grapefruit Moon, East Side Mario's on Front St.,
and the new Fox & Fiddle on Wellesley.  A map of all our hotspots is here:
http://auth.wirelesstoronto.ca/hotspots_map.php


3) BIG on Bloor

On June 20th, Bloor Street West closed for a giant street festival, and
Wireless Toronto was there.  Despite it being a very rainy day, we sold
t-shirts and buttons, and set up a six access-point network, covering Bloor
from Ossington to Dovercourt.  Photos here:
http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2009/06/22/big-on-bloor-2009/


4) Open-mesh deployments

We've been experimenting over the past year or so with the open-mesh
networking platform (open-mesh.com).  This summer we converted to of our
hotspots to this system, to help us get better coverage.  The results so far
have been great: the network at Yonge-Dundas Square and at Dufferin Grove
Park are both now way stronger than they were with the previous system.
We're continuing to experiment with the platform -- if you're in Toronto and
working with open-mesh, or are interested in checking it out, introduce
yourself on the "discuss" list!


5) InSite Toronto

Wireless Toronto is happy to be working with the art collective Year Zero
One on a new public art project, In-Site Toronto.

In-Site Toronto will be a collection of site-specific art presented on the
portal pages of wifi hotspots in the Wireless Toronto network. Once the
project is developed, the current start page that Wireless Toronto users see
when they log in will be a platform to showcase newly-commissioned media
art. The project is supported by the Canada Council for the Arts, and will
feature work by six prominent Toronto-based artists.  Production begins this
August, and the exhibition will begin in early 2010.  The works that the
artists will develop will range from video, audio, web work, a series of
still images, interactive work, games, and more. Each project will have a
conceptual link to the hotspot that it inhabits, making the connection to
Toronto's public spaces far more than just a mere presentation platform.
In-Site Toronto is curated by Michelle Kasprzak, and was piloted in Montreal
a few years ago.

The kick-off meeting for In-Site Toronto will be held on August 28th.
Wireless Toronto volunteers are welcome to get involved!  Please email Gabe
(gabe at wirelesstoronto.ca) if you're interested.


6) Yonge-Dundas community portal page project

As part of the recent expansion of the Yonge-Dundas Square hotspot, we're
working on building a new community portal page for that hotspot.  We've
been dreaming for years about our ideal community portal page (or "location
portal"), which would feature location-based information pulled from
geo-aware APIs, along with social media features.  These days there are lots
of APIs available for making this happen, so we're going to give it another
shot this August.  If you're interested in helping out, please post in the
"discuss" list!


7) Solar prototyping

Another project we'll be working on this summer/fall is building a solar
wifi mesh node.  There are commercial ones on the market, but it'd be fun to
build our own prototype, publish the specs online, and see if we can keep it
running through the winter.  If you'd like to participate, email Gabe (
gabe at wirelesstoronto.ca).


8) In the news

There's been some buzz in the past few months about the possibility of free
wifi in Toronto public housing.  Matt Hartley wrote a good article about it
in The Globe and Mail, and interviewed Gabe from Wireless Toronto:
http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2009/06/06/globe-and-mail-free-my-wifi/


9) About Wireless Toronto

Wireless Toronto is a non-profit all-volunteer group, dedicated to the
growth of no-cost wireless Internet access in Toronto's public and publicly
accessible spaces. Wireless Toronto is equally dedicated to exploring how
technology can be used to build community in interesting and innovative
ways.  Since the group's founding in May 2005, our volunteers have set up
dozens of hotspots across the GTA. A good place to start finding out more
about Wireless Toronto is by checking the group's blog at
wirelesstoronto.ca/blog and by joining our e-mail lists:
    Wirelesstoronto-news (announcements only)
    Wirelesstoronto-discuss (discussion, normally low volume)
Subscribe at: http://wirelesstoronto.ca/wt_email_lists.php

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groups to contact us, attend one of our monthly meetings, join our
discussion list, and get involved in expanding free wireless in all of
Toronto's  neighbourhoods.

Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/wirelesstoronto
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From dan at misener.org  Sun Jul 26 20:37:58 2009
From: dan at misener.org (Dan Misener)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:37:58 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] [wirelesstoronto-news] Wireless
	Toronto news, summer 2009
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4136825e0907261737w2c938vc95a6ddd3d681230@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> 4) Open-mesh deployments
>
> if you're in Toronto and working with open-mesh, or are interested in
> checking it out, introduce yourself on the "discuss" list!
>

This is great news! Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dan, and for
the past year or so, I've been running a small mesh network at the corner of
Queen and Parliament:

http://public.meraki.com/network/Corktown<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.meraki.com%2Fnetwork%2FCorktown&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdkBPKzwoniJOzL_rwc5Blx7JUVtg>

Right now it's running on Meraki hardware and software, but with their
recent pricing and business model changes, I've been very interested in the
open-mesh system as an alternative. I've read that it _used_ to be possible
to reflash Meraki hardware to the open-mesh system, but that this is no
longer the case.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience reflashing Meraki devices to
run open-mesh.

-- 
Dan Misener
dan at misener.org / +1 (416) 879-4695
http://www.danmisener.com
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From dan at misener.org  Mon Jul 27 11:48:09 2009
From: dan at misener.org (Dan Misener)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:48:09 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] [wirelesstoronto-news] Wireless
	Toronto news, summer 2009
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907261553y2afe0964o23735794ec4a9968@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4136825e0907270848l57ba78e3j822fa7a393307ec9@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> 4) Open-mesh deployments
>
> We've been experimenting over the past year or so with the open-mesh
> networking platform (open-mesh.com).  This summer we converted to of our
> hotspots to this system, to help us get better coverage.  The results so far
> have been great: the network at Yonge-Dundas Square and at Dufferin Grove
> Park are both now way stronger than they were with the previous system.
> We're continuing to experiment with the platform -- if you're in Toronto and
> working with open-mesh, or are interested in checking it out, introduce
> yourself on the "discuss" list!
>

This is great news! Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dan, and for
the past year or so, I've been running a small mesh network at the corner of
Queen and Parliament:

http://public.meraki.com/network/Corktown<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.meraki.com%2Fnetwork%2FCorktown&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdkBPKzwoniJOzL_rwc5Blx7JUVtg>

Right now it's running on Meraki hardware and software, but with their
recent pricing and business model changes, I've been very interested in the
open-mesh system as an alternative. I've read that it _used_ to be possible
to reflash Meraki hardware to the open-mesh system, but that this is no
longer the case.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience reflashing Meraki devices to
run open-mesh.

-- 
Dan Misener
dan at misener.org / +1 (416) 879-4695
http://www.danmisener.com
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 13:25:56 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:25:56 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>

At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.

Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.

Gabe
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 13:28:24 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:28:24 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>

Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to do
it!

Alex


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>
> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>
> Gabe
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 15:38:18 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:38:18 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>

OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
muster.
The Wi-Fi is still down :-(

Here's a rundown:
>From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
network....just not surf the web.
I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
internet connection problem?

The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
connected lights would show on the modem.
When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
start glaring again.

The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router rather
than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
Would that make a difference?

I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.

Alex


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to do
> it!
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>
>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
>> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
>> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>
>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
www.alexdefreitas.com
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 15:51:02 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:51:02 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alex --
Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it won't
work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
auth server).

Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?  (Mo
has it.)

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
> muster.
> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>
> Here's a rundown:
> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
> network....just not surf the web.
> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
> internet connection problem?
>
> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
> connected lights would show on the modem.
> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
> start glaring again.
>
> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
> Would that make a difference?
>
> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to
>> do it!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
>>> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
>>> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>
>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>
>>> Gabe
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>> The University of Auckland
>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 15:58:27 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:58:27 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>

Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach coach
in there for the time being.
While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the Linksys
and see if that does anything differently.

Alex

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> Hi Alex --
> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
> auth server).
>
> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?  (Mo
> has it.)
>
> Gabe
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
>> muster.
>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>
>> Here's a rundown:
>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>> network....just not surf the web.
>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
>> internet connection problem?
>>
>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
>> start glaring again.
>>
>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>> Would that make a difference?
>>
>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to
>>> do it!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.  My
>>>> hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be with
>>>> the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>>>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>
>>>> Gabe
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>> The University of Auckland
>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
>


-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 16:22:17 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:22:17 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>

Woohoo!  Thanks!

Plug the NS2 into the roach coach directly, and leave the Linksys plugged
into the dsl modem.

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach
> coach in there for the time being.
> While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the
> Linksys and see if that does anything differently.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex --
>> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
>> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
>> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
>> auth server).
>>
>> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?  (Mo
>> has it.)
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
>>> muster.
>>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>>
>>> Here's a rundown:
>>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>>> network....just not surf the web.
>>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection. So
>>> internet connection problem?
>>>
>>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity lights
>>> start glaring again.
>>>
>>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>>> Would that make a difference?
>>>
>>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way to
>>>> do it!
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.
>>>>> My hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be
>>>>> with the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to restart
>>>>> them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
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From dan at danmisener.com  Fri Jul 31 17:15:03 2009
From: dan at danmisener.com (Dan Misener)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:15:03 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Open-mesh on linksys routers
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but are you running open-mesh/ 
batman/robin on stock Linksys routers?

I have a couple of WRT54GLs that I'd love to reflash and use as part  
of a mesh. Didn't think it was possible. Looking at the WT site, I  
can't seem to find much about the hardware and firmware powering the  
mesh. Where's the best place to learn more?

Thanks kindly,

-dm

Sent from my telephone. Apologies for brevity, mistakes. 


From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 17:33:28 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:33:28 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Open-mesh on linksys routers
In-Reply-To: <5564BAEE-4F20-45EA-8537-F18A8A51410C@danmisener.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311238o1e40f946sfc40f2ae4ccf4278@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311251r1aac5332v7aa9b8d984cda25e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311258t7e7d0e4t941f4f22ea42a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
	<5564BAEE-4F20-45EA-8537-F18A8A51410C@danmisener.com>
Message-ID: <95b1c3780907311433p7c4706c1neabbf35004edb5f6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan --
No, open-mesh only works on Accton-chipset routers.  OpenWRT-compatible
Linksys routers use the Broadcom chipset.

That said, I think it'd be cool to write some code that would allow Linksys
routers to be managed & monitored through the open-mesh dashboard.  I
haven't put much thought into it yet, but it'd be possible, if a little
kludgy.

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Dan Misener <dan at danmisener.com> wrote:

> Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but are you running open-mesh/
> batman/robin on stock Linksys routers?
>
> I have a couple of WRT54GLs that I'd love to reflash and use as part
> of a mesh. Didn't think it was possible. Looking at the WT site, I
> can't seem to find much about the hardware and firmware powering the
> mesh. Where's the best place to learn more?
>
> Thanks kindly,
>
> -dm
>
> Sent from my telephone. Apologies for brevity, mistakes.
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
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From colindefreitas at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 18:33:59 2009
From: colindefreitas at gmail.com (C. Alex de Freitas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:59 -0400
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <95b1c3780907311322q44c9b0fak8aff3186b7e4f80c@mail.gmail.com>
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	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3eb718810907311533rfcb94dawd7d0cda29daf2d64@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gabe and everyone.I think I failed to be a good geek for the second
time.
It certainly is a high intensity in the TO Tix office. The guys kept asking
me if i was done yet!

The modem at Dundas is definitely not connecting to the internet.
I tested the Rogers WiMax modem and that worked fine...so I connected that
to the existing openmesh router on the window....for some reason that didn't
work!
SO, I used the pico2 router we used at BIG on Bloor and connected that to
the WiMax modem - a completely parallel set up.
That worked but it was 6pm and they were locking up. As soon as I was out in
the square it stopped working again.

The original setup is all plugged in as normal - ie. the WirelessToronto
SSID is still being broadcast - but no internet connection.
There is also the SSID  WirelessTorontoBIG and that worked when i plugged it
in - but then stopped as soon as I was out :-(

Unfortunately I'm out of here until Tuesday, and I understand on Tues the
Roach Coach needs to go to Michele. So hopefully my cumbersome solution
works til then.

Gabe, what's the dashboard URL for the WirelessTorontoBIG network?

alex


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:

> Woohoo!  Thanks!
>
> Plug the NS2 into the roach coach directly, and leave the Linksys plugged
> into the dsl modem.
>
> Gabe
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach
>> coach in there for the time being.
>> While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the
>> Linksys and see if that does anything differently.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex --
>>> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
>>> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
>>> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
>>> auth server).
>>>
>>> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?
>>> (Mo has it.)
>>>
>>> Gabe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I could
>>>> muster.
>>>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>>>
>>>> Here's a rundown:
>>>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>>>> network....just not surf the web.
>>>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>>>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection.
>>>> So internet connection problem?
>>>>
>>>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>>>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>>>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity
>>>> lights start glaring again.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>>>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>>>> Would that make a difference?
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way
>>>>> to do it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.
>>>>>> My hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be
>>>>>> with the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to
>>>>>> restart them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>> The University of Auckland
>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
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>
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>
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-- 
C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
The University of Auckland
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From gabe at pwd.ca  Fri Jul 31 18:45:53 2009
From: gabe at pwd.ca (Gabe Sawhney)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:45:53 -0700
Subject: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] Dundas-Square is down
In-Reply-To: <3eb718810907311533rfcb94dawd7d0cda29daf2d64@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95b1c3780907311025t78fd4aedhad273b3fd5c8636a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3eb718810907311028x218aa953yc03573e7b6ec0f1f@mail.gmail.com>
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Good work, Alex.  <smile>  It sounds like you did all the right things.  It
looks like the pico2 is up now:
http://www.open-mesh.com/nodes_attnt.php?id=wirelesstoronto&showall=1&details=1

Gabe


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:33 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Gabe and everyone.I think I failed to be a good geek for the second
> time.
> It certainly is a high intensity in the TO Tix office. The guys kept asking
> me if i was done yet!
>
> The modem at Dundas is definitely not connecting to the internet.
> I tested the Rogers WiMax modem and that worked fine...so I connected that
> to the existing openmesh router on the window....for some reason that didn't
> work!
> SO, I used the pico2 router we used at BIG on Bloor and connected that to
> the WiMax modem - a completely parallel set up.
> That worked but it was 6pm and they were locking up. As soon as I was out
> in the square it stopped working again.
>
> The original setup is all plugged in as normal - ie. the WirelessToronto
> SSID is still being broadcast - but no internet connection.
> There is also the SSID  WirelessTorontoBIG and that worked when i plugged
> it in - but then stopped as soon as I was out :-(
>
> Unfortunately I'm out of here until Tuesday, and I understand on Tues the
> Roach Coach needs to go to Michele. So hopefully my cumbersome solution
> works til then.
>
> Gabe, what's the dashboard URL for the WirelessTorontoBIG network?
>
> alex
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>
>> Woohoo!  Thanks!
>>
>> Plug the NS2 into the roach coach directly, and leave the Linksys plugged
>> into the dsl modem.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok then. New plan is that I will rendezvous with Mo and get the roach
>>> coach in there for the time being.
>>> While I'm there with the roach coach I'll try plug directly into the
>>> Linksys and see if that does anything differently.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alex --
>>>> Yeah; the modem uses PPPoE, so plugging your computer straight into it
>>>> won't work -- but plugging into the Linksys would.  It doesn't look like the
>>>> Linksys made it online successfully, though (it would've checked in to the
>>>> auth server).
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we could plug the roach coach in to get it back online for now?
>>>> (Mo has it.)
>>>>
>>>> Gabe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK.So I was just down at Yonge-Dundas utilising all geek skills I
>>>>> could muster.
>>>>> The Wi-Fi is still down :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a rundown:
>>>>> From the outside the mesh seems to be going OK, you can connect to the
>>>>> network....just not surf the web.
>>>>> I tried a straight reset of everything but it still seemed to not work.
>>>>> SO, I tried plugging straight into the modem, but still no connection.
>>>>> So internet connection problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> The weird thing is. When I plugged my laptop directly into the modem no
>>>>> connected lights would show on the modem.
>>>>> When the modem is plugged into the Linksys router all the activity
>>>>> lights start glaring again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing i didn't try was plug directly into the Linksys router
>>>>> rather than the modem to see if I could connect that way.
>>>>> Would that make a difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to go back at the suggestion of others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, C. Alex de Freitas <
>>>>> colindefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Onto it :-)In fact. I just twittered to someone that I was on my way
>>>>>> to do it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At around 4am last night our nodes at Yonge-Dundas Square went down.
>>>>>>> My hunch is that it's a problem with the DSL modem, but it could also be
>>>>>>> with the Linksys router that's plugged into the DSL modem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could someone who's familiar with the install there swing by to
>>>>>>> restart them?  I'm out of town 'til August 8th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>>>> The University of Auckland
>>>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
>>> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> www.alexdefreitas.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
>>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>>
>>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>>
>> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> C. Alex de Freitas, PhD Candidate
> School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science
> The University of Auckland
> www.alexdefreitas.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
> wirelesstoronto-discuss at wirelesstoronto.ca
>
> http://lists.wirelesstoronto.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wirelesstoronto-discuss
>
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