[wirelesstoronto-discuss] stuff at Ile Sans Fil

[James Walker]

OK, I now feel sufficiently goaded into un-lurking on this list ;-)

openid support? transparent login? revamp'ing portal pages?

I'm in!

I have no idea what the internals of WT auth looks like right now -
gabe? maybe we should grab a coffee?

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Michele Perras
<michele.perras at gmail.com> wrote:
> Inspired by Chris Messina's talk this evening- how difficult or relevant
> would it be to integrate OpenID as the WT auth?
>
> On 2009-10-20, at 1:50 PM, jason roks <jason at wirelesstoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> I like the idea of a premium service for venues to cover costs for those who
> want to take advantage of the portal pages. I am not suggesting
> any pricing scheme but I think the idea has merit to help stimulate portal
> development.
> also for us, just catching up on past venue billing would be a good first
> step =)
> Is there any discussion about auto login? maybe the iphone app can offer
> that?
> It would be good to piggy back on their iphone development.
> Ile Sans Fil really started all this for us and I think we need to keep a
> closer eye on how they operate because they have had much more success that
> we have in TO. I recognize the perception of free wifi is very different
> here -- it is expected here as it is in Vancity.
> Over all it is a fact that Toronto has very little free/open wifi compared
> to other cities in Canada and the world.  I am sure WT can continue to
> change that.
> I'm pleased to see the discussion list is active again. I'm looking forward
> to hearing and seeing what the WT community has to say and will do about all
> this.
> Jason
> -
>
> 2009/10/20 Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca>
>>
>> I lurk on the volunteers mailing list of Ile Sans Fil (our sister group in
>> Montreal).  Here's a summary of some of the stuff they discussed at their
>> last meeting:
>>
>> - They ran event wifi for PodCamp Montreal, which had 500 attendees.
>> - They might be running event wifi for the Montreal Game Summit, which has
>> around 2000 attendees.  They're working on some special equipment for this.
>> - They're floating the idea of a second-tier network membership for
>> venues; it'd be $120 or $240/year.  The venue would be identified on the map
>> in a different colour, it'd come with a higher level of personal service at
>> the time of installation, would allow them to edit some content on the
>> portal page, and would offer bandwidth limiting.  Plus they'd be providing
>> additional support to ISF.
>> - They recently implemented a new bandwidth usage policy for users.
>> - They've got an iPhone application coming out, which sounds a bit like
>> the "Wireless Toronto" app.  (Which we have nothing to do with.)  They're
>> going to be offering a free and a $2 version.
>> - They're trying to figure out how to resolve the problem of that wifidog
>> allows non-case-sensitive usernames.
>> - They're rethinking their current 20-minute grace period upon account
>> creation, recognizing that many accounts are never validated.  Options
>> they're considering are: offering a 24-hour grace period, better
>> instructions/interface, redirecting new users to the webmail login of their
>> email service provider (when possible), and taking whatever steps possible
>> to ensure that validation emails don't end up in spam folders.
>> - The next major version of wifidog is in development; they're sprinting
>> with monthly releases.  The major new features are an API to facilitate
>> Wordpress-based portal pages, and remote router configuration.
>> - They're working on a system that'll allow venues to pay their annual
>> network membership fees by credit card.
>>
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