[wirelesstoronto-discuss] Cogeco Data Services inks deal with City of Toronto

Fri Oct 30 11:30:21 EDT 2009

not surprising. same old story.

I think it sounds worse than it really is. To me, it sounds like the city is
just redoing the deal with CDS that they already had with TorHydro. Who else
would they use? especially when I suspect most of their services are
probably strewn all over that network in complete disarray. Switching data
service providers is bad enough without government and IT bureaucracy.

It is definitely a shame that our City gave up the fibre golden goose. I
hope the same doesn't happen to our public airwaves, the last remaining hope
for public infrastructure.

Jason
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2009/10/29 A C <netspec at gmail.com>

> the problem is that toronto hydro telecom catered to businesses and
> enterprise markets.  there were a few case studies done on why the
> sale would not be beneficial to the city, but of course these case
> studies are always paid for.  The sale has been brushed under a rug
> and most of the inside sources who had a direct influence in the sale
> have moved on.  If the topic is brought up at the showcase, I am sure
> someone will find a way to blame mayor miller for the sale (he seems
> to be the scapegoat for everything nowadays).  I completely agree with
> the net neutrality front, but from a business/political perspective,
> it wasn't viable given all of the "ahem" corrupt politicians we have
> in this great city.  And when money talks, people want to cash in
> before their time is up...and thats all I have to say about that
> (wink, wink).
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
> > Thanks, A C.  This is disappointing but not surprising.  The press
> release
> > didn't include a quote from anyone at the City -- presumably they'd
> prefer
> > to keep a lid on this deal.  I wonder if some shit-disturber will bring
> it
> > up at next week's Toronto Innovation Showcase:
> > http://www.toronto.ca/toshowcase/
> >
> > I've been infected with the vision of a convergence of the open web, open
> > data, open spectrum and net neutrality movements.  They're all different
> > sides of the same coin (in my opinion), and if that had been more clear
> to
> > everyone before the sale went through, it may have been easier to build
> > support to stop it.
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM, A C <netspec at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> wow - I was just waiting for the first response to this...having
> >> worked for Toronto Hydro Telecom and going through sale to Cogeco,
> >> everyone knew what was happening and what the outcome was going to be.
> >>  There is still no logical explanation as to why the company was sold
> >> by the blue ribbon panel, to me, there were 2 groups who had the
> >> potential to stop this sale.
> >>
> >> 1. the citizens of toronto, and most questioned the validity of a
> >> hydro company being in the telecom business and catering to businesses
> >> and enterprises only.  And this is purposely omitting the onezone
> >> network which in the opinion of many was just part of the plan to
> >> market toronto hydro telecom for future sale.
> >>
> >> 2. the union - who questionably did little effort to stop the sale
> >>
> >> The fibre footprint alone in the downtown core is worth 10 times the
> >> amount of what was paid for the purchase of the company.
> >>
> >> this response will likely get quite a bit of backlash - please
> >> remember it is the opinion of one person only.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
> >> > [Of course, we don't yet know the details.  But does this not remind
> us
> >> > of
> >> > the classic tragedy of privatization?  The city just sold this fiber
> >> > network
> >> > -- the one that the Onezone network runs on -- to Cogego, and now
> >> > they're
> >> > going to spend how much on buying services back? -Gabe]
> >> >
> >> > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/October2009/28/c2908.html
> >> >
> >> > Cogeco Data Services inks deal with City of Toronto
> >> >
> >> > TORONTO, Oct. 28 /CNW/ - Cogeco Data Services, a full service data
> >> > communications provider, today announced a 10-year, multi-million
> dollar
> >> > agreement with the City of Toronto that will see the City's wide area
> >> > network (WAN) services upgraded to one of the most technologically
> >> > sophisticated, all-optical networks in Canada.
> >> >
> >> > Cogeco Data Services will provide a wide area network connection to
> City
> >> > agencies, boards, and commissions including the Toronto Public
> Library,
> >> > Toronto Police Services, Toronto Transit Commission, Toronto Zoo and
> >> > Toronto
> >> > proper facilities, serving a majority of the City's 50,000 employees.
> >> >
> >> > "We know that the City of Toronto has extremely high demands for
> >> > security,
> >> > performance and bandwidth," said Tony Ciciretto, President, Cogeco
> Data
> >> > Services. "We are pleased to be working with the City to develop a
> >> > solution
> >> > that meets their needs and maximizes the full capabilities of our
> >> > network."
> >> >
> >> > Combined with the Toronto District School Board and Toronto Catholic
> >> > District School Board agreements, the City of Toronto deal will see
> >> > Cogeco
> >> > Data Services significantly expand its network in the Metro Toronto
> >> > area.
> >> >
> >> > The initiative will provide for 1 Gbps Ethernet services to all City
> of
> >> > Toronto sites and 20 Gbps+ to the City data centres, while achieving
> an
> >> > outstanding 1 to 1 throughput ratio. The improved services will allow
> >> > the
> >> > City to proceed with their unified communications plans without
> worries
> >> > of
> >> > throughput delays.
> >> >
> >> > The City of Toronto sites will be installed over a three year period
> >> > with
> >> > the first sites becoming active this year, and 95 per cent of
> >> > construction
> >> > completed by 2011.
> >> >
> >> > About Cogeco Data Services
> >> >
> >> > With its suite of connectivity and managed services (Ethernet
> MetroLAN,
> >> > Managed Wavelengths, Dedicated Internet, Co-location, Storage and
> >> > Business
> >> > Continuity), Cogeco Data Services supplies its customers with the
> fast,
> >> > reliable and secure ability to access, manage, move and store large
> >> > amounts
> >> > of data worldwide. The company's wholly-owned, redundant network is
> >> > all-optical, and offers near limitless bandwidth with services that
> >> > scale to
> >> > meet the needs of some of Canada's largest public companies and public
> >> > sector organizations. For more information about Cogeco Data Services,
> a
> >> > wholly-owned subsidiary of Cogeco Cable Inc., see www.cogecodata.com.
> >> >
> >> > For further information: Virginia Brailey, Vice President, Marketing
> and
> >> > Communications, Cogeco Data Services, (416) 840-8742,
> >> > virginia.brailey at cogecodata.com
> >> >
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