[wirelesstoronto-discuss] Cogeco Data Services inks deal with City of Toronto

Fri Oct 30 12:58:36 EDT 2009

looks status quo to me. that's includes the high cost =)

=jr

2009/10/30 Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca>

> There's some more info in this article:
>
> http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/city-of-toronto-inks-wide-area-network-contract/139167
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:56 PM, A C <netspec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> the problem is that toronto hydro telecom catered to businesses and
>> enterprise markets.  there were a few case studies done on why the
>> sale would not be beneficial to the city, but of course these case
>> studies are always paid for.  The sale has been brushed under a rug
>> and most of the inside sources who had a direct influence in the sale
>> have moved on.  If the topic is brought up at the showcase, I am sure
>> someone will find a way to blame mayor miller for the sale (he seems
>> to be the scapegoat for everything nowadays).  I completely agree with
>> the net neutrality front, but from a business/political perspective,
>> it wasn't viable given all of the "ahem" corrupt politicians we have
>> in this great city.  And when money talks, people want to cash in
>> before their time is up...and thats all I have to say about that
>> (wink, wink).
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>> > Thanks, A C.  This is disappointing but not surprising.  The press
>> release
>> > didn't include a quote from anyone at the City -- presumably they'd
>> prefer
>> > to keep a lid on this deal.  I wonder if some shit-disturber will bring
>> it
>> > up at next week's Toronto Innovation Showcase:
>> > http://www.toronto.ca/toshowcase/
>> >
>> > I've been infected with the vision of a convergence of the open web,
>> open
>> > data, open spectrum and net neutrality movements.  They're all different
>> > sides of the same coin (in my opinion), and if that had been more clear
>> to
>> > everyone before the sale went through, it may have been easier to build
>> > support to stop it.
>> >
>> > Gabe
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM, A C <netspec at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> wow - I was just waiting for the first response to this...having
>> >> worked for Toronto Hydro Telecom and going through sale to Cogeco,
>> >> everyone knew what was happening and what the outcome was going to be.
>> >>  There is still no logical explanation as to why the company was sold
>> >> by the blue ribbon panel, to me, there were 2 groups who had the
>> >> potential to stop this sale.
>> >>
>> >> 1. the citizens of toronto, and most questioned the validity of a
>> >> hydro company being in the telecom business and catering to businesses
>> >> and enterprises only.  And this is purposely omitting the onezone
>> >> network which in the opinion of many was just part of the plan to
>> >> market toronto hydro telecom for future sale.
>> >>
>> >> 2. the union - who questionably did little effort to stop the sale
>> >>
>> >> The fibre footprint alone in the downtown core is worth 10 times the
>> >> amount of what was paid for the purchase of the company.
>> >>
>> >> this response will likely get quite a bit of backlash - please
>> >> remember it is the opinion of one person only.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Gabe Sawhney <gabe at pwd.ca> wrote:
>> >> > [Of course, we don't yet know the details.  But does this not remind
>> us
>> >> > of
>> >> > the classic tragedy of privatization?  The city just sold this fiber
>> >> > network
>> >> > -- the one that the Onezone network runs on -- to Cogego, and now
>> >> > they're
>> >> > going to spend how much on buying services back? -Gabe]
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/October2009/28/c2908.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Cogeco Data Services inks deal with City of Toronto
>> >> >
>> >> > TORONTO, Oct. 28 /CNW/ - Cogeco Data Services, a full service data
>> >> > communications provider, today announced a 10-year, multi-million
>> dollar
>> >> > agreement with the City of Toronto that will see the City's wide area
>> >> > network (WAN) services upgraded to one of the most technologically
>> >> > sophisticated, all-optical networks in Canada.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cogeco Data Services will provide a wide area network connection to
>> City
>> >> > agencies, boards, and commissions including the Toronto Public
>> Library,
>> >> > Toronto Police Services, Toronto Transit Commission, Toronto Zoo and
>> >> > Toronto
>> >> > proper facilities, serving a majority of the City's 50,000 employees.
>> >> >
>> >> > "We know that the City of Toronto has extremely high demands for
>> >> > security,
>> >> > performance and bandwidth," said Tony Ciciretto, President, Cogeco
>> Data
>> >> > Services. "We are pleased to be working with the City to develop a
>> >> > solution
>> >> > that meets their needs and maximizes the full capabilities of our
>> >> > network."
>> >> >
>> >> > Combined with the Toronto District School Board and Toronto Catholic
>> >> > District School Board agreements, the City of Toronto deal will see
>> >> > Cogeco
>> >> > Data Services significantly expand its network in the Metro Toronto
>> >> > area.
>> >> >
>> >> > The initiative will provide for 1 Gbps Ethernet services to all City
>> of
>> >> > Toronto sites and 20 Gbps+ to the City data centres, while achieving
>> an
>> >> > outstanding 1 to 1 throughput ratio. The improved services will allow
>> >> > the
>> >> > City to proceed with their unified communications plans without
>> worries
>> >> > of
>> >> > throughput delays.
>> >> >
>> >> > The City of Toronto sites will be installed over a three year period
>> >> > with
>> >> > the first sites becoming active this year, and 95 per cent of
>> >> > construction
>> >> > completed by 2011.
>> >> >
>> >> > About Cogeco Data Services
>> >> >
>> >> > With its suite of connectivity and managed services (Ethernet
>> MetroLAN,
>> >> > Managed Wavelengths, Dedicated Internet, Co-location, Storage and
>> >> > Business
>> >> > Continuity), Cogeco Data Services supplies its customers with the
>> fast,
>> >> > reliable and secure ability to access, manage, move and store large
>> >> > amounts
>> >> > of data worldwide. The company's wholly-owned, redundant network is
>> >> > all-optical, and offers near limitless bandwidth with services that
>> >> > scale to
>> >> > meet the needs of some of Canada's largest public companies and
>> public
>> >> > sector organizations. For more information about Cogeco Data
>> Services, a
>> >> > wholly-owned subsidiary of Cogeco Cable Inc., see www.cogecodata.com
>> .
>> >> >
>> >> > For further information: Virginia Brailey, Vice President, Marketing
>> and
>> >> > Communications, Cogeco Data Services, (416) 840-8742,
>> >> > virginia.brailey at cogecodata.com
>> >> >
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